Its the single T drill. Unless I put e collar on his rear and nick aboout every other time he blows off sit whistle.He sits on it any other time. At the park in the yard, even in the house which my wife hates Ha.I don't understand it.Any tips from you pro trainers or veteran brown dog owners. Thanks Steve

No. Not to mention I don't want to be the one trying to stop that train. You get a 92 pound brown dawg running I don't know that you could stop him.He drives to the back pile everytime like thats the last one.A guy in the club I belong to, said all the chessie's he's been around you had to have birds to get them driving that hard.He said with him going to dummies that hard is a great thing.With this sitting on the whistle problem I don't want him to loose the drive by me correcting him wrong.

sounds like you need a line backer to give you a hand..LOL...

also might consider a pinch collar...Not the method I would choose for most dogs, but if he is running through the collar it might help...you'll need leather gloves....

before starting the session, do some sit whistle on the recall having someone else man the rope...(with gloves on) so that he understands the type of correction he is getting.

It is fun to have a dog that charges hard during pile work...it can also be painful to teach them to stop.

Don't listen to night train and you might have a dog that can run to the pile but can't do blinds. Going is good but not sitting on whistle you have nothing. Tie end of lead to tire blow whistle just before line runs out. Let the tire do the rest.

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Originally posted by Moscowitz:
Don't listen to night train and you might have a dog that can run to the pile but can't do blinds. Going is good but not sitting on whistle you have nothing. Tie end of lead to tire blow whistle just before line runs out. Let the tire do the rest.

Come on Mike we went over this one before. Work on heeling drills when you stop walking it should be whistle-nick(on his neck not on his rear-whistle). That should get him slamming his but down pretty quick. Give him some freebies but freebies should only be one toot on the whistle. Next to add the speed to his sit you will just give a nick-whistle with no whistle befor the correction. It may seem like you are applying pressure when the dog has done nothing wrong but it will make him think he missed the first whistle and will make him pay much better attention. Carry this over to the yard. Start only a few strides into the pile (before he gets momentum) toot-nick-toot cast back always time the correction in between commands this will carry over into inderect pressure later in the field.

Sorry couldn't make it to Swamp. Have to work Friday so I would not be able to enter qual. Yes Amat is on Sat but that would only be Murray.

We ran Shoreline and I was pretty happy with Murray in the amat even though we did not get a call back to the water blind. Qual picked up Larry at the water blind. Handler error as told by others.

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Originally posted by tenor:
Its the single T drill. Unless I put e collar on his rear and nick aboout every other time he blows off sit whistle.He sits on it any other time. Steve

The dog has not connected whistle- sit with retrieving. At this stage you might want to use the collar (at a reasonable level of intensity) with every whistle sit as you work on T handling and as he starts to "connect the dots" decrease the intensity. Once you are down to a low 1-2 then try no stimulus. Then he has learned.
JMO

Tim

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