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I am looking for different ideas and concepts on teaching the remote drop.

thanks

Jeff
 
Posts: 385 | Location: Miles City MT | Registered: Tue July 15 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Never taught or used a remote drop. Why? Though I heard Andy Attar say he taught a dog to bring bumpers out so he could run blinds. Dog was retired. He used a remote drop
 
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I had to clean out my stuff from Mom's house last weekend as she is preparing to sell. I found a bunch of old books I had bought and forgotten about since they've been in storage in the shop. It has a section on remote drops and why they were used in old market hunting and old field trials. You have to "read between the lines" and figure out some of the terminology differences but, an interesting none the less. I read it a long time ago and picked it up again last night. If you can find it, it is a cool piece of history. I have two copies, one copyrighted in 1898 and the later in 1904. I'm loaning one out today to a training partner and keeping the older of the two on my book shelf.

Practical Dog Training
Training vs. Breaking
by S.T. Hammond
late editor of "Forest and Stream"


Paul
Crossfire's Empire Builder aka Ty CBR M 2-15-2009
Breakwater Salutes USS Maddox SH aka Kaie CBR F 10-27-2006
RIP:Rainyvalis Callin' Hawaii 5-0 CBR F 2-19-2002 - 09-26-2006
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt 1899

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.--Gerald Ford
 
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Paul, why did they use the remote drop?
 
Posts: 208 | Location: montana | Registered: Fri November 21 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Should the dog be returning on a retrieve and another bird be shot over head and only wounded, the dog should be commanded to drop the dead bird and be sent for the wounded bird. The wounded bird would be less likely to escape if, the dog is immediately sent. The dead bird can be retrieved when the wounded bird is recovered.

This training is called, "fancy training" by the author. I was falling asleep reading last night. I need to back up a chapter and re-read.

An interesting chapter talks of the authors method of FF. He used well cooked meat and taught to hold in what I interpreted as being similar to the first steps of teaching hold in modern FF methodology. When the dog returns the meat upon command, he is given a piece of raw meat to consume. The author was specific to not use the same type of meat as the reward. The author speaks of using a lot of praise and patients while reserving "whippings" for later in development. He says he will describe when and where for that later in the book and that one should only need one or two whippings to make a life long lasting impression.

A good read for certain. PG


Paul
Crossfire's Empire Builder aka Ty CBR M 2-15-2009
Breakwater Salutes USS Maddox SH aka Kaie CBR F 10-27-2006
RIP:Rainyvalis Callin' Hawaii 5-0 CBR F 2-19-2002 - 09-26-2006
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt 1899

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.--Gerald Ford
 
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